CARLSON: Nj\u00eb person q\u00eb me sa duket nuk ka frik\u00eb t\u00eb flas\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb Naomi Wolf e cila padyshim po humbet miqt\u00eb duke u shfaqur n\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb shfaqje sonte. Ajo \u00ebsht\u00eb autore e “Fundi i Amerik\u00ebs: Let\u00ebr paralajm\u00ebruese p\u00ebr nj\u00eb Patriot t\u00eb Ri” dhe CEO i DailyClout. Ajo na bashkohet sonte.
Naomi Wolf, e vler\u00ebsoj ardhjen t\u00ebnde. Un\u00eb kurr\u00eb nuk kam menduar se do t\u00eb flas me ju, p\u00ebrve\u00e7 n\u00eb nj\u00eb format debati. Jam i sigurt q\u00eb nuk pajtohemi p\u00ebr shum\u00eb gj\u00ebra t\u00eb tmerrshme. Por mbi k\u00ebt\u00eb, un\u00eb u trondita nga trim\u00ebria q\u00eb duhet t\u00eb t\u00eb merrte p\u00ebr ta shkruar.
Jam i sigurt q\u00eb keni humbur miqt\u00eb p\u00ebr k\u00ebt\u00eb, sepse e b\u00ebt\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb, na tregoni pse po e b\u00ebni k\u00ebt\u00eb dhe pse e keni shkruar?
NAOMI WOLF, CEO, DAILYCLOUT: Epo, nuk mendon vet\u00ebm – s\u00eb pari, faleminderit Tucker, jam v\u00ebrtet i lumtur q\u00eb po flas me ty.
Nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb vet\u00ebm ajo nj\u00eb cic\u00ebrim\u00eb, un\u00eb kam shkruar shum\u00eb \u00e7do dit\u00eb p\u00ebr muaj dhe muaj p\u00ebr at\u00eb q\u00eb un\u00eb e shoh si kriz\u00eb t\u00eb tmerrshme n\u00eb t\u00eb cil\u00ebn jemi q\u00eb duhet ta njohim, n\u00ebn mask\u00ebn e nj\u00eb pandemie t\u00eb v\u00ebrtet\u00eb mjek\u00ebsore, ne ‘ duke l\u00ebvizur me t\u00eb v\u00ebrtet\u00eb n\u00eb nj\u00eb situat\u00eb grusht shteti, nj\u00eb situat\u00eb e shtetit policor dhe kjo nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb gj\u00eb partiake q\u00eb ju e dini, si\u00e7 thoni, q\u00eb kap\u00ebrcen gjith\u00e7ka q\u00eb ju dhe un\u00eb mund t\u00eb biem dakord ose jo, dhe q\u00eb duhet t\u00eb bashkoj\u00eb majtas dhe djathtas p\u00ebr t\u00eb mbrojtur Kushtetut\u00ebn ton\u00eb.
Ne jemi absolutisht duke l\u00ebvizur n\u00eb at\u00eb q\u00eb un\u00eb e quaj Hapi 10. Un\u00eb shkrova nj\u00eb lib\u00ebr n\u00eb t\u00eb cilin theksova se ishin 10 hapa q\u00eb do t\u00eb b\u00ebnin tiran\u00ebt gjithmon\u00eb kur d\u00ebshironin t\u00eb mbyllnin nj\u00eb demokraci. Pavar\u00ebsisht n\u00ebse jan\u00eb n\u00eb t\u00eb majt\u00eb apo n\u00eb t\u00eb djatht\u00eb, ata gjithmon\u00eb b\u00ebjn\u00eb t\u00eb nj\u00ebjtat 10 gj\u00ebra dhe tani jemi n\u00eb di\u00e7ka q\u00eb nuk kam menduar kurr\u00eb se do ta shihja gjat\u00eb jet\u00ebs sime.
Ju e p\u00ebrshkruat at\u00eb me t\u00eb v\u00ebrtet\u00eb, me t\u00eb v\u00ebrtet\u00eb mir\u00eb. Stepsht\u00eb Hapi 10. Dhe kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb pezullimi i shtetit ligjor. Kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb kur ju filloni t\u00eb jeni nj\u00eb shtet policor dhe ne jemi k\u00ebtu. Nuk ka asnj\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb rreth tij.
CARLSON: Jam shum\u00eb n\u00eb siklet, dhe \u00ebsht\u00eb thjesht – \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb shembull tjet\u00ebr, ka nj\u00eb milion prej tyre pse partiak \u00ebsht\u00eb budalla dhe kjo t\u00eb b\u00ebn budalla. Dhe un\u00eb mendoj se thjesht supozova se nuk do t\u00eb pajtoheshim p\u00ebr gj\u00ebra, k\u00ebshtu q\u00eb nuk lexova cic\u00ebrimat tuaja, dhe padyshim q\u00eb duhet t\u00eb kisha qen\u00eb dhe m\u00eb kan\u00eb munguar shum\u00eb.
Dhe k\u00ebshtu p\u00ebrs\u00ebri, \u00ebsht\u00eb mir\u00eb t\u00eb kujtohet, ju duhet t’i trajtoni njer\u00ebzit si individ\u00eb sesa si standarde p\u00ebr parti t\u00eb t\u00ebra politike.
Ju e keni parashikuar k\u00ebt\u00eb p\u00ebr nj\u00eb koh\u00eb t\u00eb gjat\u00eb, sapo that\u00eb. Pse nuk mendoni se t\u00eb tjer\u00ebt nuk po e shohin k\u00ebt\u00eb?
WOLF: Epo, fatkeq\u00ebsisht, shum\u00eb njer\u00ebz po e shohin at\u00eb, por ne nuk jemi t\u00eb unifikuar, dhe si\u00e7 e theksuat, ne jemi nj\u00eb vend shum\u00eb i ndar\u00eb p\u00ebr shum\u00eb arsye cinike.
CARLSON: Po.
WOLF: Un\u00eb jam n\u00eb kontakt me shum\u00eb patriot\u00eb nga t\u00eb gjitha prejardhjet dhe t\u00eb gjitha sferat e jet\u00ebs, t\u00eb cil\u00ebt jan\u00eb t\u00eb tmerruar. Un\u00eb intervistova, p\u00ebr shembull, N\u00ebnat p\u00ebr Liri, nj\u00eb grup n\u00ebnash konservatore n\u00eb Florida q\u00eb po mobilizohen p\u00ebr t\u00eb provuar hapjen e shkollave. Ata jan\u00eb aq t\u00eb shqet\u00ebsuar p\u00ebr at\u00eb q\u00eb po ndodh me f\u00ebmij\u00ebt e tyre.
Dhe kam biseduar me nj\u00eb n\u00ebn\u00eb, Jen Sey, nj\u00eb gjimnaste dhe aktiviste e famshme n\u00eb San Francisko n\u00eb t\u00eb majt\u00eb, e cila \u00ebsht\u00eb gjithashtu nj\u00eb n\u00ebn\u00eb, e cila \u00ebsht\u00eb e tmerruar.
Ju e dini, un\u00eb kam intervistuar mjek\u00eb, kam intervistuar, ju e dini, njer\u00ebz t\u00eb zakonsh\u00ebm, pronar\u00eb restorantesh nga t\u00eb gjitha shtresat e jet\u00ebs, t\u00eb cil\u00ebt nuk jan\u00eb absolutisht n\u00eb gjendje t\u00eb artikulojn\u00eb as frik\u00ebn dhe tmerrin e tyre, duke pranuar se Shteti tani ka shkat\u00ebrruar bizneset, mbajtur ne nga mbledhja n\u00eb asamble falas p\u00ebr t\u00eb adhuruar, si\u00e7 parashikon Amendamenti i Par\u00eb, po pushton trupat tan\u00eb, si\u00e7 e p\u00ebrmend\u00ebt, e cila \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb shkelje e Amendamentit t\u00eb Kat\u00ebrt, po kufizon l\u00ebvizjen, duke na gjobitur k\u00ebtu n\u00eb shtetin e New York, un\u00eb mund t\u00eb gjobitem $ 15,000.00 nj\u00eb dit\u00eb, n\u00ebse mbledh njer\u00ebz, e dini, m\u00eb shum\u00eb se 10 ose 25 njer\u00ebz, n\u00eb var\u00ebsi t\u00eb vendit ku un\u00eb jetoj n\u00eb New York State.
Ju e dini, e cila \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb shkelje e plot\u00eb e Amendamentit t\u00eb Par\u00eb, dua t\u00eb them, shkeljet vazhdojn\u00eb, dhe vazhdojn\u00eb e me radh\u00eb.
Un\u00eb kam biseduar me pronar\u00eb restorantesh t\u00eb cil\u00ebt po shikojn\u00eb nj\u00eb sektor n\u00eb t\u00eb cilin dhjet\u00ebra mij\u00ebra biznese t\u00eb vogla jan\u00eb shkat\u00ebrruar dhe pse u shtyp\u00ebn ato? Jo sepse pandemia i detyroi ata, nuk ka asnj\u00eb shkenc\u00eb t\u00eb v\u00ebrtet\u00eb q\u00eb q\u00ebndron n\u00eb themel t\u00eb shum\u00eb prej k\u00ebtyre mbylljeve.
Becausesht\u00eb p\u00ebr shkak se tiran\u00ebt autokratik\u00eb n\u00eb Shtet dhe tani n\u00eb nivelin komb\u00ebtar, po krijojn\u00eb nj\u00eb lloj bashkimi t\u00eb pushtetit t\u00eb korporatave dhe pushtetit qeveritar, i cili \u00ebsht\u00eb me t\u00eb v\u00ebrtet\u00eb karakteristik i fashizmit italian n\u00eb vitet 20-t\u00eb. Dhe ata po e p\u00ebrdorin at\u00eb p\u00ebr t’u angazhuar n\u00eb lloj urdhrash emergjence q\u00eb thjesht na heqin t\u00eb drejtat tona: t\u00eb drejtat e pron\u00ebs, t\u00eb drejtat e mbledhjes, t\u00eb drejtat e adhurimit dhe t\u00eb gjitha t\u00eb drejtat q\u00eb garanton Kushtetuta jon\u00eb.
K\u00ebshtu q\u00eb njer\u00ebzit padyshim jan\u00eb t\u00eb tmerruar dhe duke e v\u00ebrejtur, un\u00eb mendoj se njer\u00ebzit jan\u00eb t\u00eb tronditur dhe t\u00eb ndar\u00eb, si\u00e7 e p\u00ebrmenda m\u00eb par\u00eb, dhe gj\u00ebja tjet\u00ebr q\u00eb ndodhi, si\u00e7 that\u00eb ju, e gjitha kjo ka qen\u00eb shum\u00eb e papritur.
Dhe kur shikoni prapa, e dini, Mars 2020, shum\u00eb gj\u00ebra filluan ta zhvendosin at\u00eb lloj t\u00eb mbyllur n\u00eb vend t\u00eb nj\u00eb s\u00ebr\u00eb politikash q\u00eb jan\u00eb nj\u00eb lloj 360 grad\u00ebsh t\u00eb plota mbi politikat totalitare.
K\u00ebshtu q\u00eb mendoj se shum\u00eb prej nesh jan\u00eb n\u00eb nj\u00eb far\u00eb m\u00ebnyre shoku kulturor. P\u00ebr fat t\u00eb mir\u00eb, ose pa fat, un\u00eb kam studiuar mbylljen e demokracive p\u00ebr 12 vjet. K\u00ebshtu q\u00eb e kuptova her\u00ebt, e dini, pasi kuptova q\u00eb shteti i Nju Jorkut kishte fuqi emergjente, un\u00eb e di nga historia se askush nuk heq dor\u00eb nga kompetencat e urgjenc\u00ebs me d\u00ebshir\u00eb.
CARLSON: Nui eshte e drejt\u00eb.
Wolf : Ata gjithmon\u00eb e t\u00ebrheqin dhe e t\u00ebrheqin. Dhe k\u00ebshtu \u00e7do muaj po marr n\u00eb post\u00ebn time elektronike nj\u00eb njoftim se Guvernatori Cuomo po zgjat masat e urgjenc\u00ebs, duke zgjatur masat e urgjenc\u00ebs.
Vet\u00ebm nga studimi i historis\u00eb, un\u00eb e di se sa e parashikueshme \u00ebsht\u00eb, kur filloni t\u00eb keni zyrtar\u00eb t\u00eb zgjedhur q\u00eb ne nuk do t\u00eb ndjekim Kushtetut\u00ebn sepse ka nj\u00eb pandemi.
Dhe s\u00eb fundmi dua t\u00eb them, dhe pastaj premtoj se do t\u00eb ndalet. Askund n\u00eb Kushtetut\u00eb nuk thot\u00eb se, e gjith\u00eb kjo mund t\u00eb pezullohet n\u00ebse ekziston nj\u00eb s\u00ebmundje e keqe. Ne kemi jetuar p\u00ebrmes tifos, koler\u00ebs, lis\u00eb, HIV, tuberkulozit, poliomelitit, gripit spanjoll.
E dini, ne kemi jetuar p\u00ebrmes nj\u00eb sulmi n\u00eb tok\u00ebn ton\u00eb. Kurr\u00eb nuk ka pasur muaj dhe muaj dhe muaj t\u00eb fuqive emergjente kur n\u00eb t\u00eb v\u00ebrtet\u00eb nuk po luftonim nj\u00eb luft\u00eb.
CARLSON: Nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb e drejt\u00eb.
WOLF: Pra, kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb plot\u00ebsisht e pashembullt. Bllokimet nuk jan\u00eb b\u00ebr\u00eb kurr\u00eb m\u00eb par\u00eb n\u00eb shoq\u00ebrit\u00eb e lira. Dhe me t\u00eb v\u00ebrtet\u00eb, ne po kthehemi n\u00eb nj\u00eb version t\u00eb shteteve totalitare para syve t\u00eb t\u00eb gjith\u00ebve. Dhe me t\u00eb v\u00ebrtet\u00eb shpresoj, e dini, ne zgjohemi shpejt, sepse historia gjithashtu tregon se \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb dritare e vog\u00ebl n\u00eb t\u00eb cil\u00ebn njer\u00ebzit mund t\u00eb luftojn\u00eb p\u00ebrpara para se t\u00eb jet\u00eb shum\u00eb e rrezikshme p\u00ebr t\u00eb luftuar.
CARLSON: Une kam filluar t\u00eb mendoj se po ndahemi si nj\u00eb vend pik\u00ebrisht k\u00ebshtu q\u00eb t\u00eb mos b\u00ebjm\u00eb biseda si kjo. Dhe shpresoj se do t\u00eb ktheheni.
Naomi Wolf, \u00e7far\u00eb k\u00ebnaq\u00ebsie. Kur ishte nj\u00eb k\u00ebnaq\u00ebsi q\u00eb t\u00eb hap syt\u00eb, do t\u00eb flisja me ty sonte. Faleminderit.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"
CARLSON: Nj\u00eb person q\u00eb me sa duket nuk ka frik\u00eb t\u00eb flas\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb Naomi Wolf e cila padyshim po humbet miqt\u00eb duke u shfaqur n\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb shfaqje sonte. Ajo \u00ebsht\u00eb…<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":2027,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"cybocfi_hide_featured_image":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[33],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2026","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-bota"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/parleralbania.com\/site\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2026","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/parleralbania.com\/site\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/parleralbania.com\/site\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/parleralbania.com\/site\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/parleralbania.com\/site\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2026"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/parleralbania.com\/site\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2026\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2028,"href":"https:\/\/parleralbania.com\/site\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2026\/revisions\/2028"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/parleralbania.com\/site\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/2027"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/parleralbania.com\/site\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2026"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/parleralbania.com\/site\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2026"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/parleralbania.com\/site\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2026"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}